Been meaning to post some mp3's, and woebot's ethnographic mini-discography prompted me to try to post this particular track if only to challenge the idea that "there aren't the same kind of trans cultural conduits plugging them into other musics"; It was made in one day, entirely (apart from the Amen breaks) from two Folkways LPs borrowed from the library (drums from africa, vocals from mongolian nomads!) It was one of the first tracks I ever made, and probably the best one, since I didn't have much of a clue what I was doing and was influenced only by my largely incorrect assumptions of what jungle was meant to sound like and some vague numero-rhythmical idea of how it might interlock interestingly with the drum patterns.
Some beautiful scans in Woebot's ethnography section (considerably better than the 13-yr-old-copying-out-of-2000AD vibe of the 4Hero sleeve ;) but I'd love to actually hear an entire album of mbira - can't some charity-minded millionaire set up an online digital library of all woebot's obscure vinyl? A much-needed public service, especially since all public libraries, in their systematic conversion into 'one-stop happenin' e-edutainment centers for da yoof' managed by PR consultants and staffed by loud illiterate minimum-wage ex-market traders, sold off all their stock of any interesting/unusual vinyl for 5p a shot long long ago...those that Matt hadn't already stolen, of course...
So I fear Mr Carmody's spirited insistence on returning said stolen items wouldn't do much good, except that Matt could go and buy them back the next day and feel honest. I actually bought a book for 50p from a library sale, it was probably worth £8-£10 secondhand, and I'd borrowed it only a month before - what the hell is the criteria for chucking stuff out, then, if not whether it gets borrowed or not? Do they ask the members of S Club 7 to choose what they consider the kewlest books? Or maybe it's one of those ultra-participatory (except if you live here) BBC Digital things where you get to press the red button. Gahhhh....
footnote: the mp3 file was meant to be 4MB, but after 2 hours and 17,000,000 bytes it's still uploading, so I think I'll try again tomorrow...
Posted by robin at May 6, 2004 11:18 PMI can't wait to hear this Robin! Though I'm not sure if it'll disprove my assertion in the same way that (yikes) Moby's sampling of the Folkways catalogue didn't. I think my point only really applies to isolated musics like those of Tibet and the Central African Rainforest...
>Mr Carmody's spirited insistence on returning said stolen items
Robin needs to 'read' a little more calmly and with a greater degree of emotional sophistication. I said with all seriousness that I'd endeavour to return the records to that Library. Thanks to Cozen's help this process is underway.
>I'd love to actually hear an entire album of mbira
get us your address and I'll sort u out.
Posted by: Matt Woebot at May 7, 2004 11:26 AM>I'm not sure if it'll disprove my assertion in
>the same way that (yikes) Moby's sampling of the Folkways catalogue didn't
I hope not too, if so I promise to kill myself.
Posted by: undercurrent at May 7, 2004 12:17 PMas to mr carmoody, as I've said before I fully support any deviation in blogville from nice polite mutually-supportive measured sunday-supplement debate, long may he say what he thinks! It didn't seem particularly rude to me anyway, it was more comical really, the severe state of shock the news of your misdeeds appeared to put him in ;)
Seriously though, don't bother giving it back to the library, they don't have any sense of the value of such things anymore.
Give me the Sunday Supplements over Sunday School anyday!
Flaming is funnier when it's underhand. Just ask Mark K, master of the art!
Posted by: Matt Woebot at May 7, 2004 12:47 PMyeah but Robin's not doing it to be funny, he's just doing it cos that's what he thinks. No point trying to suppress that...For instance although it pissed me off at the time I respected Luke far more for going totally mental at me about my dissing of Bromley-by-Bow than if he'd just posted comments saying 'i agree with you, let's be friends' ...
Posted by: undercurrent at May 7, 2004 12:54 PMIt's just a shame he couldn't acknowledge that:
a) I was sorry.
b) I was intending to return the record.
And decided to heap scorn upon me when i was contrite. Nothing complicated and it's not as if I've given terribly much thought to it. Robin seems to make a habit of descending on nerds with unnecessary force, before proceeding to sulk when people then turn on him!
I'm not censoring him, just sad that he thought it was necessary..... And actually give me considerate discussion ANYDAY.
Posted by: Matt Woebot at May 7, 2004 01:48 PMAnyhow...it's a bit embarrassing arguing over the man as if he's not there, I'm sure he doesn't need my protection. I'm asocial too, what do I know? It's just that carmody seems to receive these very personal attacks so often just for having an opinion and stating it in a way that wouldn't be acceptable in a hampstead dinner party setting. What he said about the library isn't actually that heavy, so I'd say there's some wilful misinterpretation going on ...
Posted by: undercurrent at May 7, 2004 02:59 PMWhatevs.
Posted by: Matt Woebot at May 7, 2004 08:37 PMbah
Posted by: undercurrent at May 7, 2004 09:20 PM
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